Candidate: McCain Doesn’t Understand Interrogation
Yes, you read that right. I did a double take myself. It wasn’t an copy editor’s boo boo. He actually said this during an interview on a radio talk show.
And so this idea that we didn’t ask that question while Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was being waterboarded, he (McCain) doesn’t understand how enhanced interrogation works.
Are you kidding me? Enhanced interrogation is just a polite and fancy term for torture. And if anyone knows about torture, it’s McCain. Santorum has some serious balls to say this about a POW.
Torture doesn’t work. I never understood why people think it does. A person who is being tortured will say anything, anything to get it to stop. It doesn’t even have to be true. Just give them something vaguely similar to what they want to hear. An example is our favorite waterboarding participant, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed:
“Not only did the use of enhanced interrogation techniques on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed not provide us with key leads on bin Laden’s courier, Abu Ahmed, it actually produced false and misleading information,” McCain said.
Rick Santorum believes that the information did come from KSM. OK, fine. Believe whatever you want. Just don’t tell someone who was tortured for nearly 6 years that they don’t understand it. MSNBC reported the Facebook response by McCain’s aide, Mark Salter:
For pure, blind stupidity, nobody beats Santorum. In my 20 years in the Senate, I never met a dumber member, which he reminded me of today.
Message to Santorum: Not only is this claim complete lunacy, you look like a really insensitive blowhard when you say that about a POW.
Majority Agree with Obama Decision on Bin Laden Photos: Poll
Hmmm. The results of the poll were surprising to me. I think I’ve been listening to a lot of the Right pundits who have to see the photos lest they die or something.
Mama and papa hosted fight night at their house last night. Papa asked me what I thought about the photos. I said, “He should release them to shut those people up who don’t believe he’s dead.” He didn’t agree. He believes it really could incite violence in the Muslim world.
I don’t know if it’s that. The people who are pissed about his death didn’t need pictures to piss them off. They’ve already stated they want blood.
I believe Obama isn’t releasing the photos because of the whole afterbirther debacle. Some people just won’t believe Osama is dead, even if there are photos. There is already DNA evidence that says there is a 1 in eleven quadrillion chance it’s not him. His wife identified him. They ID’d him with facial recognition. And al Qaeda confirmed his death.
Even with all that, if Obama releases pictures, Proofers/Deathers won’t believe. I kinda wish he would make them public. Even though it won’t make them believers, their credibility would be even more shot. They will slowly fade into the background. Plus, anyone who has a little doubt can finally be convinced.
Those are the only reasons why. I don’t need to see blood and gore. The photos of the other people in the compound who were killed were gruesome enough.
There are those who really want to see them. I’ve been in some forums with people who would be happy to see the photos. They think liberals are “saving them from themselves” by taking away their choice to see them. Um OK. Anyway, it’s like they want to revel in the victory, and the pictures make it even more real? I don’t know. Maybe they get their rocks off looking at dead people. It creeped me out.
In the end, it’s Obama’s call. Like I told the people in the forums. “We don’t need to see them. You and other others want to. We don’t always get what we want.”
Since Osama Bin Laden’s death, we’ve had to deal with the Proofers who apparently need to take pictures with the body to believe he’s dead. And of course, the “waterboarding works” crowd who, even after it was proven that the information was not obtained by torture, still think it’s an effective tactic. Then, the tug-of-war between who gets credit, Bush or Obama. All that is kinda expected, or at least not surprising.
Now this crap below (TV news coverage and article)?? I didn’t expect it. Especially not from an “educator.” Just watch.
TX Teacher Suspended after Telling Muslim Student ‘I Bet You’re Grieving’
I was wrong. Won’t be the first time, certainly won’t be the last. Obama told 60 Minutes he’s not releasing the photos. He’s not going to oblige the Proofers
HuffPo’s Sam Stein’s Tweeted:
The risks of release outweigh the benefits. Conspiracy theorists.. will just claim [they] are doctored anyway.”
Thank you. I don’t think it’s that it will be inflammatory, but because Proofers won’t buy it anyway.
Here come the signs “Release the Photos” and “What are You Hiding?” If Proofers need a leader, I found one. Andrew Breitbart. He swears up and down he isn’t one. He’s merely providing an “open forum” to debate whether or not he’s dead. OK, cool. You only have yourself to blame if people start talking Afterbirth, Roswell, and Grassy Knolls on your site.
Meet the Deathers: Andrew Brietbart Website Pushing Conspiracy Theory That Osama Might Not Be Dead
U.S. Says Bin Laden Photo “Gruesome,” Weighs Release
This incident has produced yet another group of conspiracy theorists. We have
Birthers Afterbirthers, Truthers, and now, Proofers. The Proofers aren’t buying that he is dead. Even though there was DNA evidence, a positive ID by his wife, and facial recognition, they want photos.
Some victims’ families have requested the photos. I can understand why they want to see them. They want to know for sure that their loved one’s killer is dead.
I don’t need to see them. Ideally, I would like the victims’ families to be privy to them. Proofers want them, but should they be able to see them? I don’t know. When Obama released his long form birth certificate,
Birthers Afterbirthers cried, “Fake!!” within hours. I think the only thing that will satisfy them is a Kenyan/Indonesian/Alien birth certificate. Notarized and with a foot print, of course.
Will the Proofers be satisfied? Or will they say, “Nope. Not him. Nice try.” And what proof would they need? A body would have been nice, but since he’s fish food, it doesn’t matter. Would they believed it if there was a body anyway?
Despite the questions, I do think the White House will release the pictures. Just to shut people up. But we all know that won’t last long.
His last Facebook Updates:
His first Tweets in the Hereafter:
Some other stuff that cracked me up:
Obama: Al-Qaida Head Bin Laden Dead
I want to see the bastard’s body before I do a happy dance. I am excited, though. Mainly because of the possibilities. Can we finally leave Afghanistan? I know it’s about the Taliban now, but initially, it was about this guy. Since this is a huge development, maybe Obama can use this opportunity to speed up the withdrawal. I don’t know. I should just be happy that the head honcho of terrorists is dead.
My partner is ecstatic and wants his body brought to NYC. She lived there when this happened. One of her friends had a meeting at the WTC and would have been there as the towers fell. He miraculously missed it – it wasn’t his time. To this day, she still can’t watch 9/11 documentaries. This is big for her. She gave me a hug and said, “Good day.”
10 years. It took a decade, but he’s finally gone. This was the justifiable war. He killed 3000 of our people. It was a direct attack on us. The fact that the ring leader is dead is huge.
Thank God for the tip. Thank God for the operation. Thank God for the military operatives that carried out the order. Thank God he is dead. Thank God for justice.